I.33 Sword and Buckler – Showcasing HEMA

Shawn Franklin from blend iron martial arts here with special guest Kyle Griswold from the Phoenix Society of historical swordsmanship you’re here today to talk to me about high 33 you mean 133 Shawn I don’t know what’s the correct one give me 1 33 so I played teach 1 33 in my school before we even be grabbed either the shield or the sword we’re going to talk about how to just hold ourselves to correct basic postures the first thing we’re going to talk about is keeping the back aligned and straight one of the things that people are always going to often do in 1:33 because it’s a needy habit it’s because they want to suck everything in they’re going to break their posture and they’re going to bend forward here which really kind of creates this punch in the back I’m always going to keep my back nice and straight no matter where I am at I’m going to lean forward at the hips just slightly and I should basically always be having my hips squared up when I can against my opponent so that both hands are the same distance that allows me to utilize both weapons whenever I have the opportunity to do so anytime I’m stepping I’m really going to be trying to have this sort of pushing against my opponent and so as we step we keep our arms slightly bent without completely locking the elbow just a slight bend in the elbow and we’ll practice moving while keeping our back straight and this forward posture we can do that over and over again and basically all we’re going to do with that is just try and focus on keeping the hands the same length not breaking one elbow and having one pass the other and then keeping the structure in the back as we move so moving into actually how we’re on a whole the shield and the sword there are seven common wards in 1:33 and I’m going to discuss them very quickly the first ward is going to be under arm or the first sword basically right foot forward the sword will be held under the arm with the buckler extended or the buckler can be drawn in again the sword is going to be held under the arm with the knuckles high okay second word can be performed with either foot forward the buckler is extended the sword is held in a chambered position on the right shoulder again there’s some people who wanted to have a specifically very horizontal here but really is this is a common word anything in here it’s chambered for a right position that can be fine step forward we go to our third our to our left shoulder from the left shoulder we have third ward again this is another position from which we can deliver strikes from the other side bringing the buckler in and the floor behind the back we are in fourth ward from fourth ward we can throw strikes for multiple directions and the buckler can be read forward in order to deliver the strike fifth Ward is going to be our longtail so we’re going to be brought back with the buckler extended this is a position from which we can thrust from sixth Ward is going to be from the breast the sword is going to be held horizontally across the chest with the point threatening but not allowing our opponent the ability to manipulate our blade and seventh Ward is the ward from which all the art flows according the manual which is our seventh Ward it’s our basically our Longpoint there’s three variations we can have a low Long Point a traditional Long Point and then a high seven so having understood the way that the guards work and they basically function the way that all the wards work any of the postures work from other fighting systems what makes one thirty three one of the things makes one thirty three different is that we have these things called upsells or besiegement or displacements which actually act as counters against the guards so one of the some of the common ones will have both probably the most common one is going to be half shield basically the point is going to be held up by the buckler extended some people will have the point much lower but this really isn’t quite correct the point should be held high and what from this position the manual says that if Shaun here is in first word he attacking my head is going to be very difficult as it’s very easy for me to counter and it says that if he tries to strike below my buckler it’s very pernicious to his head so half shield allows us to do half shell as an example of a displacement which allows us to enter and counter certain Wars I’ll give another example so if Shaun goes back into first word I could end cover a measure while going into a cover and that basically puts Shaun in a bad position because he now has to deal with the fact that I closed up perhaps one of the line that he wanted to deal with so now as I close measure I come in I cover the lines of attack that he may want to give and if he does nothing at all if he simply free just because he’s identified that I’ve covered the line he doesn’t want now I have set up myself for an attack this is kind of consistent throughout everything just one more example of this if Shawn is fighting from his second Ward position I’m a-goin again go to scoots and recover I could enter from a second position come over with my hand over and now I basically denied him the line of attack that he’s most likely to engage me from but if he does nothing from here the manual simply says that I can attack him freely so now that I have an understanding of what the Lord’s do and what the covers do the displacement as we and work against one another let’s talk about what fundamentally 1:33 is attempting to achieve 1:33 is attempting to control the opponent’s weapons both of them while before actually attacking the opponent if our opponents make certain mistakes we may be able to find ourselves in a position to attack them without having to manipulate both weapons but for the most part we’re assuming that our opponent is a competent fencer and in order to safely attack him we need to control his weapons the very first thing in simplest concept that we’ll discuss is going to be the over bind and under binding Shawn and I extend our swords from this position right here with our swords both being on the line neither of us have any advantage over the other as soon as I go to push Shawn sword off to the side he is now over bound and he is he has the under bind and I have the over bind and he is at a position of disadvantage if Shawn pushes me over to the other side I am now over bound and he has the over Bible from this position I have to perform what’s called a mutation of the sword in order to now regain the dominant position the manual doesn’t specifically tell us how to do this but we can infer certain things based off of later manuals such as I might perform a cavity Oni or simply dipping under the sword and replacing his dominant position the other way I may change this is by simply changing my line and now by stepping out and changing the line I have gained the dominant position and the third way that we may be able to achieve this is he has a stronger portion of his sword on mine and now I simply push my strong into it onto his weak and now I again have mutated the sword so throughout the process of the fencing I want to try to seek the over bun I went to half my sword in the dominant position so for those of you who have practiced rapier fencing you’ll understand that this concept of gained the blade is very simple that makes a lot of sense once I have achieved the over bind the next simplest technique that I want to perform is going to be the shield knock the shield knock is simply a strike which allows me to control both weapons and this was going to be very important after I have over bind I can come in hit his weapons I have his weapons controlled and now he is free to be attacked and he is no way for him to retaliate from the other side the bind would look something like this I have my opponent over bound I enter knocking both weapons aside and in this case he hasn’t covered his hand this could be a potentially crippling strike to the hand and again I enter with a strike so having controlled both weapons I go in I enter and I commit a strike another option I have in order to attack my opponent from a safe position is the tread room if for example Shawn is in his second ward position and he’s chambered to cut me I can go and cover perhaps from half shield or cover against his attack is descending over how attack I’ve come out committed to stopping this blow with my sword and from this position he can no longer defend me with his sword and I can simply go with a passing step and a strike I can simply come in through his head and strike here and at this point has a very difficult time trying to counter me or defend against the attack the tread through appears in other positions and now we’ll go and talk about how to get out of the if we are over about how to escape the overbite there’s three different ways in which in the very first play we haven’t talked about how to get out of the put a vulnerable position if we have find ourselves over bound so perhaps this time he found me and he’s a little closer to me than he was before he gums into shield knock me I stepped through him shield knock and his weapons before he can shield knock mine and then I deliver the strike to the neck the third option is the grapple which isn’t necessarily depicted with an illustration in this first plate but let’s say for example he is bound me and he has bound me very very closely and before he has begun to initiate his shield strike I know that I have to cover my head because from this position all he has to simply do is raise his sword up to my neck and I’m wanting to die so as I have realized that he has bound me and he’s in a very dominant position I simply keep this pressure up against him to help to prevent him from convening committing attack I roll my elbow over I in velop both of his arms and now I’m in a good position all right Kyle thank you very much for teaching us all about 1:33 sword and buckler we’re very glad to have you as a pleasure for me to be here thank you for having me obviously we didn’t go through everything in 1:33 there’s a lot to this manual a lot to this source that i couldn’t have described in the short video but i really felt like i provided with a lot of the basics of the of it and the basic concepts of the source that gives the viewer sort of an idea of what it’s all about so yeah well we’re very grateful and I hope you have all enjoyed this [Music] [Music]

40 Replies to “I.33 Sword and Buckler – Showcasing HEMA

  1. This may be a dumb question but, are there any manuals dealing with just arming sword vs arming sword? Was that a common thing in the middle ages, or did they almost always have a buckler?

  2. I think I can say I found this very helpful.
    I've taken two classes in I.33 so far, with the first class I took being my first ever HEMA training session. I haven't been able to attend lessons in my club because of education-related, er, setbacks. Thanks for uploading this!
    And funny. I was considering getting a Cold Steel buckler because I don't have a buckler of my own so I think Friday's video should also be informative as well as entertaining.

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  4. "It is to be noted, how in general all fencers, or all men holding a sword in hand, even if ignorant in the art of fencing, use these seven wards, " – quoted from the I33.

    – so these 7 wards are not specific to the system

    – it is strange to prescribe a correct or perfect position to a ward that every man even ignorant of the art will hold.

  5. I really liked this video. Showing the manual illustrations alongside the physical demonstrations is a nice touch and really helps visualize them.

  6. It doesn't convince me. We know so little about the fighting style of I.33, everything presented here is highly speculative.

  7. Blood & Iron, where do you get your arming sword feders from? Alternatively, do you recommend any particular models?

  8. In real world with sharp swords you cannot slide one sword against another sword ( like in some your attacks eg. 8:17min.), on normal sharp swords from medieval time after hit ( even from nowadays iron if is not very hard) you had damages on edges/ kerbs, on both swords and they got kerbed and jammed, ( even many kerbs on one sword after longer fight, iron in that time was not tough like nowadays). then maybe these fencing manuals were wrong or authors were fighitng with blunt edges as well and they didn't think about sharp swords? I fought once against my friend, both with sharp not forged swords (quite good simulation of medieval steel/ iron) and our swords were like saws after few minutes and they jammed many times, it was very hard to slide one edge against another without wrist movement to release edge, but quite often we lost our pressure force (? )/balance advantage after that wrist movement. sorry for grammar/mistakes please check this video and Roland warzecha's channel he was talking about that in another video.

  9. Great information, I am getting ready to start training HEMA for the first time and this really presents it in a way that I can understand. I can't wait for my equipment to come in so I can work through this.

  10. I find it quite surprising that the buckler doesn't seem to be used as a primary defensive weapon, but rather the sword is both the primary attacking weapon and the primary defensive weapon, while the buckler is a tool to control your foe's weapons after the bind/initial impact.

  11. Scützen? The pronounciation of 'Schützen' is as if you would say: shit-zen 😛 Regards from Germany

  12. Great video – I've been wanting to practice I.33 for a while now. Where did you get those single handed steel feders?

  13. I really enjoyed this! I teach PCE Escrima and see so much in common. Did a bit of Italian rapier but my 62 year old knees won't take the deep lunges ….now these stances I could actually do. Since I live in the middle of Phoenix and know Richard Marsden and some of the great guys at the Phoenix Society of Historical Swordsmanship ….I think it's time to get off my butt and take this up. Seriously!

  14. Hello, great video! I have a question regarding the book at the end. Is that a book with full plates and an English translation? If so, what is the name of the book? I’ve been looking for a manuscript to begin studying the I33 but am having a hard time finding one.

  15. I'm looking more and more about I.33 combat recently, having no other ressources than internet and the original sources. No clubs teach buckler in my area. It's fascinating to see how every club has it's own interpretation and style. What do you think of Roland Warzecha's more bind-oriented style?

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