– We have the records here… – These are all hand written manuscripts – Yes, yes – These are not printed copies Is it the 1902 record ? Do you have the 1902 old record ? Can you have a look for that old one? the 13th generation This is the 13th generation This is the 47th tome … Is there Wu Ying ? This is the 47th tome … This is our current Wu family record keeper He is the only one in charge of
the family record, other people cannot keep them. the 13th generation….(reading) Usually, before reading this, one should
do ritual washings Should I do it ? No, no, this is special occasion … 13th generation … Do you know at which generation they split the family into
front yard and back yard ? About the 4th generation ? Initial record of Wu Zhong (吴钟, 1702 – 1812)
founder of Baji Quan Initial record of Wu Ying (吴溁, 1766-1852)
Wu Zhong’s nephew and adoptive grandson According to the record, Wu Ying
was originally called Wu Rong (吴荣) Wu Ying’s graveyard
(north Mengcun hamlet) This Wu HuiQing
(Wu LianZhi’s grandfather) Here is Wu BaoZhang
(Wu HuiQing’s father) here Wu Kun
(Wu BaoZhang’s father) this is Wu TongYun’s wife Later I’ll take you to Wu TongYun’s tomb
(Wu Kun’s father) Here is Wu Ying
(Wu TongYun’s father) The tomb of Wu Ying’s wife is over there … (Tomb of Wu Ying) Here is Wu Ying’s daughter in law, i.e. Wu TongYun’s wife Wu TongYun is over there
(on the west of Mengcun) Let’s explain : Wu TongYun died earlier than Wu Ying
(i.e. his own father) – Do you understand ?
– Yes Wu Ying’s wife, we call her “Ying’s old lady”, his wife died earlier than him, so she was burried over there, next to Wu Ying’s brother and father … Wu Ying’s son (Wu Tong Yun) also died earlier than him, so he is also burried over there… So when Wu Ying was about to die, he said “I don’t belong to the old graveyard, because I have accepted
to be adopted by Wu Zhong in order to continue his descendence, so I must have my own grave” His son & wife were not burried here, but his grandson, Wu Kun, his grandson and his wife are both burried here … The 3 sons of Wu Kun, his sons are here : 1,2, 3 … The oldest one was Wu BaoZhang, the second one also died very early, he died just after getting married, I don’t remember his name, the 3rd one was called Wu BaoRui … Wu HuiQing was my grandfather, Wu HuiQing called Wu BaoRui “Third Uncle” or “Bofu” (Uncle) or “ShuShu” (uncle) – Do you understand ?
– yes, yes … So when he learned martial arts, when these two persons, Wu HuiQing & Wu BaoRui learned Baji Quan, Wu Kun was already dead, Wu Kun died also rather early, so they learned from Wu Kai, Who was Wu Kai ? He was the grandson of Wu Ying’s brother – Do you understand ?
– yes … – Do you understand their relationship ? Tomb of Wu XiuFeng (1908-1976) This tree grew up naturally ! Wu family ancestral graveyard
(west Mengcun) This is Wu Ying’s wife … Who is there, Wu Kai ? Yes Wu Kai, the one which is far behind … Straight in. This is DingYang Zhen
(顶阳针， needle hitting Yang) Peng (捧, raise with 2 hands) When we practice XiaoJia, there is this movement BaWang JuDing,
(霸王举鼎, XiangYu raises the cauldron) and this Kua LanZhou,
(挎蓝肘, carry the basket elbow) This is also Kua LanZhou Kua LanZhou is like that : for example, if someone hits or grabs here, you need to lead it close to your own body, same thing on this side, same thing, even if they grab here, it works the same… you can also do it with 2 people (arms) … then you can push him… this movement is Kua LanZhou this movement is similar to this one before, called Yang DingTou
(羊顶头, goat’s head push) so first time is like this, then secondly you do Peng then same as before
(but arm drops to both side of the knee) the principles are the same the knee must hit his solar plexus
(Tan Zhong point) once you get a hold, then knee Don’t do like this, it’s not correct, You have to sink down for stability Do not jump ! There is also Die(Zi) Shou,
(叠手, folding hand) Left and right Die Shou, ShuangYang Ding, HuoDa Ding Zhou,
(豁打顶肘, split & push with elbow) Liao Yin (撩阴, lift the groin) & Die Shou LiaoYin is like that : when he hits me, I can block like this, or like that, LiaoYin as you step in (qi bu ) this is LiaoYin LiaoYin is hitting the crotch… Threre is also Ding
(顶, push) and FanPi (反劈, turning split) This is Die Shou, there are many applications for Die Shou : you can do Die Shou like that, or also like that, So this is how to do Die shou in the form, and (make sure ) then follow with stepping. then LiaoYin and Die Shou you can also use “big” Die Shou (DaDieShou) This is big Die Shou Die Shou at the lower level, Left, right, front, back,
you can use Die Shou … you see I can go from the side like this, enter, then here is Die Shou. This is like a turning winch
of a water well Lulu FanChe
(辘轳翻车) Like the winch of a water well In the ancient times, people were using water well, the wells had a winch and handle on top, and the bucket was toppling mechanically, when going down the winch is turning fast ! It was in the ancient times, nowadays this does not exist anymore ! The movement is like the winch of a water well This movement often appears in PiGua Quan. In BajiQuan it is called LuLu FanChe In SiLangKuan there is a saying : ” Die Shou turns left and right” Die Shou is mentioned again and again. DieShou is both striking & seizing technique, Like this, or can be like this also, we do the movement like this in the form, Die Shou – it goes(turns) back
to your own center. Then you can turn (continue) it back, you will make someone fall. You can do it on the leg or whole body, Left and right Die shou. He hits me, I block like this and pull, here’s Die Shou In SiLang Kuan, QiShou, Diezi Shou, Turns left and right … Fist falls like fixing a beam in the ground, in order to lock the lower section
(拳落定梁锁下盘) About locking the lower section… You lock the leg, then you can lock the
lower section like this. you see we have a movement like this… This movement is DuShe Bai Tou
(毒蛇摆头, viper sways its head) How can we use DuSHe Bai Tou ? I can control him, If you push me, I sway my foot After I sway the foot, it becomes another technique called Pan Da. If he runs… When do the follow step, …sway the front foot like this. if he pull that leg back (again), we can turn and lock the other leg again, we do this movement, Du She (the viper) BaiTou (sways its head) after San Dian Shou
(三点手, 3 pointing hands） Then there is Dan Yang Da,
(单阳打, groin hit) then Za GuiXi
(砸跪膝, kneel down & pound) I explain Za GuiXi, he hits me, I rush inside this knee is pushing here, and I hit with the fist ! Za GuiXI has many applications, the Danda, XiaoJia, SiLangKuan taolus all have this movement … There is also this movement HuangYing Nie Su
(黄莺捏嗉, Oriole pinches the throat) When punch comes we cover it
(闷, men) then go up from here directly don’t do like this ! or like this, do like this (make sure the wrist is bent), use Hu Kou (tiger mouth) to press here. In training you do it like this, (in real usage) when taking back, tear off the throat, this is very tough ! hand out ( like this ) and hand back like this (hooks back ) An old saying goes : “Hand should go out like threading a net, and should come back like a hook” When you do the cuting motion there, in case you miss the target, then return with a “hook” grab like this ! That is the returning hand. Oriole pinches the throat : Hand pinches the throat like this, no one can stand this. You aim to break the neck’s soft parts. KuaLan Zhou it is also called Jia Liang Jiao
(架梁跤, propping the beam & stumble） this movement “KuaLan Zhou” Walk the 7 star steps, Why do 7 steps ? In heaven there are seven stars, The location of 7 stars is Ursa major then people have realised this, when driving a plane or a boat, when on the ocean, if you don’t know what direction to go, look at Ursa major people use 7 stars or compass It is a fixed point ! So when we train taolu, there are seven fixed points there is also the “seven star pole” that has 7 fixed points when walking the 7 fixed points, you walk using “BaiMa FanTi”
(白马翻提, white horse kicks back) First raise (hand and Knee), the hand in this direction, look backward this movement, in Wresting , is called Jia Liang Jiao. What is Jia Liang Jiao ? when one hand punches, the hand goes here, the foot hit here, hit and turn(head) around ! then he will fly that direction. It is a very efficient technique, you can also use it without the foot you can break the arm, you can also do it like this After he hits me, you can break it use the lever here. the force is like this ! Use inward join forces .. When doing Jia Liang Jiao, use force toward yourself It is not like Shaolin Quan ! It is not a flowery technique ! Force should come back to your center. When you walk in the form , you walk this way (the 7 stars position) come backward here, and turn (head) ! SiLangKuan is made of 2 parts : one is SiLangKuan, one is SiLangTi When the Wu family people were training, they had high walls they were checking nobody was outside, and only trained if nobody was around ! There was also a SiLangKuan
outside Wu family, there was a public version of SiLangKuan, When people from ouside the Wu family, or Han nationality people were asking : “Can you teach me SiLang Kuan ?” The Wu were saying : “SiLang Kuan is like Chang Quan ! ” this is totally different compared to Baji Quan’s characteristics. – The SilangKuan we train nowadays is from Wu BaoRan, isn’t it ? – It is from the “13th elder” the “13th elder” ! – “13th elder”, Wu BaoZhang’s brother
(his cousin) – 13th ? This is Wu BaoRuan ? – yes, Wu BaoXuan (correct spelling) He is the one who taught it ! Wu BaoZhang, was my grandfather’s father, he did not train Baji Quan, – Do you understand ?
– yes ! – it is the one upside ?
– yes, this one ! – it is Wu BaoXuan ?
– Yes, Wu BaoXuan ! – he taught Si LangKuan ? – when my father was young, he was deaf, he once performed at a
martial art exhibition, so my grandfather realised at that time, that my father was very intellingent, that he understood Baji Quan very well, So these 4 old Baji people : Wu BaoXuan was one of them, also (Wu) LinShu and (Wu) ShiKe, and also (Wu) HuiQing, so this 4 people taught my father … – Do you get it ?
– yes, yes ! – I looked in The PoBei village old manual, they have SiLang Kuan … – yes ! – so it means that in PoBei village people also trained SiLang Kuan ? – they don’t understand what is written ! – they don’t understand & don’t train ?
– No ! – So in LangerKou, Pobei, ZiLaiTun, nobody trains SiLang Kuan ?
– nobody trains it ! – When did it start to be public ? – It was never public ! – For example, when your father was living in Tianjin, did he teach SiLangKuan in Tianjin ? – he did not ?
– no … – Only a few people learned it – For example, your father’s diciples in Tianjin like Wang Jie …
– yes Wang Jie, Yang WeiLong … – They learned it – they know it a bit ?
– yes they know it ! – but they don’t know every details … when I learned SiLang Kuan, when there was nobody around, my father taught me every movement one by one, how to use them, why practice like this or like that … Also the spear, the spear from the venerable (Wu)LinShu, the 6 harmonies big spear I taught you, this spear is from LinShu .. – LinShu who ?
– the venerable LinShu He taught my father – LinShu ?
– yes, LinShu ! – Ah, Wu LinShu, ok ! (Wu) ShiKe, was also remarkable, spear, staff, sword mastering at all of them, this 4 old people, the “4 elders” together with Wu HuiQing, these 4 ancestors of the Wu family were particuarly outstanding … – Are there any other Mengcun people ? like Wu Zhaohai, Wu DeLong they also learned SiLang Kuan ? – no !
– no, really ? – The SiLang Kuan Wu ZhaoHai was training, is not the SiLang Kuan we train, Wu DeLong was training SiLang Kuan but he trained a different one, – but Wu BaoXuan was his grandfather ! – yes, he was his grandson ! – but he only learned a bit ?
– yes ! – Wu DeLong was my father’s disciple, he was much younger than my father, – Wu ZhaoHai and WuDelong, they always stayed in Mengcun ? – yes, they never left, they never went anywhere else … – What relationship did you have with Wu ZhaoHai & Wu DeLong ? Did they helped you when you were young, when you father was in Tianjin … – yes, they taught me ! Wu DeLong taught me the spear, – At the beginning, my spear, the 6 harmony flower & big spear, were taught to me by Wu DeLong, Do you understand ?
– yes ! – Wu ZhaoHai did also help you ? – yes, he helped me … – your father told him : “you are my disciple, you help my son !” – yes, yes … – When my father was there, they would all come, when my father was coming back
from TianJin to Mengcun, they would all come, and we would all train together – when your father was in Tianjin, for the every day training … – yes, we all trained every day ! – who was your trainer ? was it Wu ZhaoHai ? when you were very young ? – when I was very young, it was Wu DeLong ! – In Mengcun, from 1956 until 1976, who had the biggest Baji Quan school ? You said once that Wu ZhaoHai had a big school, that Ding YuLin also had a big school, – (Wu ZhaoHai) had no school, he had a big courtyard, he had the largest group of students – There was Wu ZhaoHai, Wu DeLong, Ding YuLin, who else ? – Ding YuLin … was not like the others, they had bad relationships .. – yes, I know… but when there was some Baji Quan activity, – they would all participate ! – because from 1966 to 1976, there was the Cultural Revolution … – Yes ! – how were the training
conditions in Mengcun ? did you had to train secretly ? – yes, we were training secretly … – you could not train in public ?
– no, not in public … at that time, there were no competitions, but it was public and also not public, everybody knew about it ! – At this period, when your father was in Tianjin, could he teach Baji in public ? could he teach in public parks ? – there were people telling my father : the Baji that you are teaching, belongs to the “4 old things” ! things from the “old society” ! You cannot teach it anymore ! My father said : what I teach is all “workers & peasants” things ! “worker & peasants”, from workers and peasantry … Our hand techniques, he said : our hand techniques are hammer, tile, hatchet, fork, etc. my hand is like hammer and sickle, put together they are the symbol of the communist party ! Why should it be reactionary ?! – quite clever !
– very clever ! the soldiers had nothing to say ! – so the red guards did not move ? – they did not dare to move ! – do you understand ? – this is incredibly clever ! – we train tile, hatchet, hamer, etc. they are all worker & peasant tools ! these tools put together are like CP ! how can we be reactionary ? We are not from the old society, we are from the new one ! The symbol of CP is hammer together with sickle, this is representing the Communist Party hammer & sickle combined together, workers & peasants together, this is CP ! Right ?
– yes, yes ! very clever, never thought about it ! there were some people, bad people saying : master Wu, you teach the 4 old things ! Then the revolutionary groups had violent conficts among
the different factions. They said : please master Wu, teach us ! if you teach us, we will give you a lot of money, My father said : whatever the money, I will not teach you ! This was the Cultural Revolution … During the cultural revolution, it was both public and not public, they trained in TianJin XiGu park … – where in Tianjin ?
– In Tianjin Xigu park … I’d just like to know, I heard that you are 64 years old now, am I right ? – yes, 64 years old ! – which year did you start to train Baji ? – Hmmm, when I was 18 years old … – 18 years old, right ? – so you asked Master Wu LianZhi to accept you as a disciple ? – Before I became a disciple of Wu LianZhi I had another teacher from CangZhou – Ah ? who was he ? His family name is Yin, Yin ShuChun – When you started to learn Baji Quan, there was nothing like this training center – No ! – Where did you train ? – Hmmm, anywhere ! or at home – Did you come everyday to train with Master Wu LianZhi, was it everyday, or one day per week ? – It was not fixed, we just trained when we could – At that time, when you started to train Baji, what was the content of you training, what did you learn with Master Wu ? – First, it was XiaoJia, – XiaoJia 1 Lu ? – Yes, just xiaoJia … Then, step by step we learned
the deeper level things. learn Bajiquan (i.e. Danda) and DuiLian. I also learned Zhan Zhuang – Ah yes, ZhanZhuang (postural training) – At that time, the training conditions were quite hard, isn’t it ?
– Yes, hard ! – Because Mr Wu had to work at the factory, work & teach Martial Art
at the same time, yes ? – Yes, yes … – I did not understand, you 1st etacher was from CangZhou ? – Yes Mr Yin ShuChun from CangZhou, now he is 80 years old … – 80 years old ? he was doing Baji Quan ? – Yes, but at the beginning he did train TongBei Quan, in CangZhou he also learned Pigua Quan There was someone wearing
the Han family name, called Han ZhenYuan. then he moved to Mengcun to train, – Why did he come to Mengcun ? – Because Mengcun was convenient, CangZhou was not convenient, – Because you are from Mengcun, right ? – Yes I am from Mengcun … – Do you still live in Mengcun ? – Yest, I still live in Mengcun, about 7 miles from here, this is 3 km from here … – So you are a typical local Mengcun person ! – What were the differences between the Baji you learned with your 1st teacher, and the Baji your learned from Wu LianZhi – They are the same ! both come from Wu LianZhi’s father, my first teacher and Wu LianZhi are close Kungfu brothers, when my 1st teacher was in Mengcun, he was repairing watches – oh ?
– yes, repairing watches … then he went to CangZhou for retirement so I studied directly with Master Wu – At that time in Mengcun, how many people were training Baji Quan ? who was teaching Baji Quan ? there was Master Wu LianZhi ? Wu ZhaoHai or maybe Wu DeLong ? did you see anybody else ? Teaching Bajiquan, was mainly at
Mr Wu (LianZhi)’s place. – Wu LianZhi … (too much background noise) – Ok …. Is there anything else you want to say ? – I hope than in the future you can come back again you are welcome at my place next time. – Yes, yes … thank you very much !